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May 14, 2004

Six Degrees, Reality TV Style

How weird. I went to college with this guy. Talk about blurred realities.

Posted by chuck at May 14, 2004 8:10 PM

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Posted by: A Alexander Stella at May 15, 2004 11:50 AM

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Posted by: chuck at May 15, 2004 12:26 PM

Chuck -- and to think, when we went to Europe in college, Chris Peyton didn't even like wine. I recall that he wanted to like it -- because he wanted to be seen as 'cool' -- but he couldn't stand the taste!

Posted by: Chris at May 16, 2004 6:02 PM

my point is -- I think it's ironic that Chris is the 'food and wine' expert on the show... forgot to include that in my last post.

Posted by: Chris at May 16, 2004 6:04 PM

Yes, I didn't specifically remember his distaste for wine, but I did find it somewhat odd that he was chosen for that role.

Posted by: chuck at May 16, 2004 6:27 PM

12 or 13 years down the road, people change (we sure have)... so I guess we have to allow room for that. My tastes aren't the same as they were then, to be sure. But it did give me a laugh.

He sure looks different, doesn't he?

How did you hear about it, btw? Just curious. I found out via the Lee grapevine...

Posted by: Chris at May 16, 2004 7:07 PM

Your brother told me....I think he'd heard the news from you.

I was going to make a similar comment about tastes: 12 or 13 years ago, I didn't like Guiness or beer in general (despite all of my trips to the pub), and that's changed just a little.

Chris does look quite a bit different--I don't think I even recognized him in the group photo.

Posted by: chuck at May 16, 2004 7:24 PM

Yeah, Jim heard it from me. I don't think I would've recognized him if I hadn't been looking at the picture specifically FOR him.

Posted by: Chris at May 17, 2004 9:58 AM

Speaking of Lee stuff: While doing some spring/summer cleaning today, I came across an old Cleveland, TN, newspaper article reporting the establishment of Sigma Tau Delta w/a pic of CP, you, me, Steve, Dr. Woods, and a couple of other people. Quite the flashback.

Posted by: chuck at May 17, 2004 2:10 PM

LOL, blast from the past. I don't think I still have that article. It all seemed so important at the time, didn't it? ;-)

Posted by: Chris at May 17, 2004 4:27 PM

Chuck...
Am I to assume you are a fellow Tennessean? Or does Lee draw from outside the lovely ET environs?

Posted by: meg at May 20, 2004 3:19 PM

I grew up in suburban Atlanta and only lived in Tennessee while I was in college.

According to the numbers when I was there, more Lee students came from Georgia than any other state (with Tennessee a close second). The school drew pretty heavily on some of the evangelical/fundamentalist churches in suburban Atlanta, but there were also quite a few students from the mid-Atlantic (especially suburban DC, where there was a large Church of God population) and, for reasons I never quite understood, from Michigan.

Lee is so isoloated from the rest of the world that I never really felt terribly connected to the community or Tennessee in general. Of course, I never really felt connected to Lee College.

Posted by: chuck at May 20, 2004 3:37 PM

I knew that the South was a centrifuge, with all Southerners doing time in 'tlanna (four years here), but I didn't realize it was an autoclave too, flinging Atlantans wide.

I grew up a few I-75 exits north of Cleveland, and about half of the college-bound kids from my h.s. went to Lee (and the rest to Johnson Bible College). But looking at their webpage, I see that it's not the same place it used to be.

Posted by: meg at May 20, 2004 6:29 PM

How do you perceive it as different? I didn't have the best experience there, so I've never gone back. I know it's a much bigger place (with 3000+ students) than it used to be...

Posted by: chuck at May 21, 2004 12:03 PM

Size matters! When I was around there, it was a small school closely associated with basketball -- if you loved the roundball but weren't good enough to play at Carson-Newman (or, heaven forfend, UT), Lee was your school.

Now they seem to have 4000 students, fancy facilities, and lots of talk of diversity. Yes, that's really more a sign of the times than a sign of change at Lee, but hey, we're talking about my sepia-toned halcyon youth here.

Something about the webpage makes it look a lot less super-scrubbed Christian Clean than I remember it. Not that there are keggers there now or anything, but the word in school was that musical instruments were frowned upon (much less dancing or -- saints preserve us! -- playing cards).

That said, I'm not sure I've ever *been* to Lee. So I guess I'm just talking smack.

Posted by: meg at May 23, 2004 3:09 PM

Yep, when I was there Lee got their fair share of guys who either didn't qualify academically or athletically for the NCAA. Not sure whether that's still true.

According to one of my students here at Tech who has friends at Lee, it still sounds pretty much "super-scrubbed." Men still aren't allowed past the lobbies of women's dorms (and vice versa). They still have a dorm curfew. Not sure about prohibitions on dancing. I do know that when I was there, I had a friend who got demerits for dancing.

Keggars weren't really allowed, of course, but I attended a couple (they were usually several miles from campus, deep in the Tennessee woods, often leading students to drive drunk), and several students I went to school with were actually kicked out of Lee when they appeared on MTV Spring Break (one guy, when asked where he went to school, shouted "Lee F***ing Collge!!" on live TV).

That being said, I think it has improved a lot. Rumor has it that students were discouraged from going to see movies (at least R-Rated ones) up until the mid-1980s...

Update: when I originally tried to submit this comment, it was blocked because I spelled out "f***ing."

Posted by: chuck at May 23, 2004 3:26 PM

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